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Requirements to Sub TSI for EOCs

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:49 am
by scott.placek
from the TTAAS Group wrote:I have a 10th grader who took the TSI exam last year and passed. Last year he took English EOC when he was supposed to been exempt. Last week I sent email to his counselor requesting they update his record to reflect his TSI scores so that he could use it for substitution against English II EOC this year. The counselor responded back and stated in order for my child to use his TSI scores (1) student must had been enrolled in a college prep English, and (2) had to unsuccessfully taken the English II EOC twice. I went to the TEA website and I see a ruling expired in September 2019. What i don't understand is if he was on the list to be exempt last year how is the counselor justifying this year. I truly believe the counselor is wrong. Any input would be appreciated. I'm in Humble ISD. Thank you.
Original Post

TSI has never been a 1 to 1 substitute like SAT or ACT. There is a two failure requirement to use it independent of the prep class. It seems to me you are probably getting accurate information but it is jumbled. Where the counselor is wrong is that is is not a College Prep class AND two failures.

39.025 (a-1) which involves the college prep class lets the TSI substitute with either no or one prior failure of the relevant STAAR EOC.

39.025 (a-3) lets the TSI substitute after two failures and without any college prep class. So the counselor is conflating the two provisions. But there is not a stand-alone take TSI and be exempt the way we have with the SAT or ACT.

Re: Requirements to Sub TSI for EOCs

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:17 pm
by kathy.smith
I have had some multiple failure EOC kids be able to graduate because of the TSI, but they met its requirements. These are usually students who struggle on the reading and who have some degree of ADHD, although not always on SPED or 504. TSI has more reading passages but they are short and the questions are asked immediately. For this student profile it is better than having to read multipage material with all the questions at the end. They have not had to be in a dual credit class, or a prep class, but in all cases they were 11 and 12 level students who were still trying to pass English I EOC although they had no trouble passing on level English classes.

So like Scott said this is not a new requirement due to the supposed change from TEA.

Re: Requirements to Sub TSI for EOCs

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:44 pm
by sytipton
Isn’t this the rule that just recently changed that states you don’t have to fail an EOC in order to use the TSI as a substitute score?

Re: Requirements to Sub TSI for EOCs

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:09 pm
by scott.placek
sytipton wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:44 pm Isn’t this the rule that just recently changed that states you don’t have to fail an EOC in order to use the TSI as a substitute score?
No. The Education Code has specific requirements to substitute the TSI. The new rule (which we prevented from BEING CHANGED) unfortunately does not and cannot alter the statute.